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Vegeta vs Trunks; post 1st rosat and Cell games
Topic Started: May 31 2012, 06:24 PM (1,376 Views)
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Who is stronger when they exit the time chamber the first time and at the Cell games. When Trunks first uses Ussj they make it seem like he surpassed his father. Who wins?
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Vegeta.
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Vegeta takes this ...
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Reasons? I too believe Vegeta is stronger, but why? Is Ussj Trubks too slow for Assj Vegeta? What about at the Cell games after Trunks uses rosat again(does he?) surely Trunks abandoned the ussj form after Cell revealed it's flaws.
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1st RoSaT. Vegeta say Trunks has a closer power to him. ASSJ Vegeta > ASSJ Trunks. Probably USSJ Trunks lose against ASSJ Vegeta because Vegeta knows the wikness.
2nd RoSaT. Both train again in Rosat. in Cell Games Vegeta was superior. They was MSSJ.
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May 31 2012, 06:42 PM
1st RoSaT. Vegeta say Trunks has a closer power to him. ASSJ Vegeta > ASSJ Trunks. Probably USSJ Trunks lose against ASSJ Vegeta because Vegeta knows the wikness.
2nd RoSaT. Both train again in Rosat. in Cell Games Vegeta was superior. They was MSSJ.
Trunks and Vegeta both reached Mssj after their second trip in the rosat? Are you sure about that? I thought Goku and Gohan were the only ones who have that form at that time. I remember Vegeta saying Trunks was almost as strong as him post 1st rosat, but Trunks was hiding the ussj. So I guess for the first match im asking Assj Vegeta vs Ussj Trunks. Now at the Cell games are they both just stronger Assj or just a lesser mssj than Goku's form?
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May 31 2012, 06:52 PM
Vegeta SSJ2
May 31 2012, 06:42 PM
1st RoSaT. Vegeta say Trunks has a closer power to him. ASSJ Vegeta > ASSJ Trunks. Probably USSJ Trunks lose against ASSJ Vegeta because Vegeta knows the wikness.
2nd RoSaT. Both train again in Rosat. in Cell Games Vegeta was superior. They was MSSJ.
Trunks and Vegeta both reached Mssj after their second trip in the rosat? Are you sure about that? I thought Goku and Gohan were the only ones who have that form at that time. I remember Vegeta saying Trunks was almost as strong as him post 1st rosat, but Trunks was hiding the ussj. So I guess for the first match im asking Assj Vegeta vs Ussj Trunks. Now at the Cell games are they both just stronger Assj or just a lesser mssj than Goku's form?
Just i belive Vegeta and Trunks are MSSJ at Cell Games. But they see Goku at that form and maybe can learn in 1 year. But they are strong. In manga they are just SSJ. If they was inferior to Cell Jr needs to transform in ASSJ. Vegeta was angry but not transform in ASSJ. No they learn MSSJ but are much weaker than MSSJ Goku. Vegeta don't say they are equals after 1st RoSaT , just they have closer powers. And Vegeta can transform in USSJ after 1 st RoSaT.
That's my numbers.
Super Vegeta 6.25
Super Trunks 6
USSJ Trunks 11
USSJ Vegeta ( if he transformed ) 11.25
MSSJ Goku 50% 12
SSJ Vegeta ( Cell Games ) 15
SSJ Trunks Cell Games 13.25
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I think most likely Vegeta knew how to attain ussj, so Trunks was never actually stronger than him. It was heavily implied since Trunks realises that the ussj form is flawed and that he was wrong about surpassing his father, and Goku is shown realising the weakness of ussj, and explaining it to his son. However, Vegeta and Trunks didnt talk/train together like Goku and Gohan so Vegeta never got a chance to explain the weakness to Trunks.
I think that Vegeta was stronger as a ssj or assj because he went into the rosat stronger (the strongest of the saiyans) and was shown to train at higher intensity.

At the Cell Games I think Vegeta was probably a little bit stronger still, but they were possibly equal seeing as in the Bojack movie Trunks was shown to be a mssj, so he was probably already starting to think about that by the Cell Games. Also they did equally well against the Cell Jrs. If they fought I'd still give it to Vegeta during the Cell Games though, since even if they were equal in power his experience would probably give him an edge.
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IMO I don't think Trunks is capable of going all out against Vegeta like Vegeta would against him. That's another advantage for Vegeta.
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In manga Vegeta SSJ fight better than SSJ Trunks against Cell Jr's.
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I think Trunks would actually win if he was facing another enemy he just had to take down with ASSJ Vegetas PL

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Without a shadow of doubt, its Vegeta.
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What about in movie 9 who wins? I am also wondering if Vegeta and Trunks are Assj at the cell games and in movies 8 and 9.
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Smokeout Slawth
Jun 2 2012, 09:52 PM
What about in movie 9 who wins? I am also wondering if Vegeta and Trunks are Assj at the cell games and in movies 8 and 9.
Vegeta still wins.

Toei :

Cell games : ASSJ

Movie 8 : ASSJ

Movie 9 : Vegeta looks more like SSJ while Trunks is same like in movie 8. Lets just say they are ASSJ.
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Movie 9 I think Trunks. He has a mssj aura.
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